
a video of pastor's wright's sermon on 9/11 that started all the outrage. Sine all we have had were snippets from all of the media. I think it is very important for all of us, supporters and non supporters alike, to actually hear the mans words in context.
I realize many will still be offended and that is fine, I still think it is important to hear the speech in context. There should be a rule against snippets in the news.
I have become increasingly dismayed at he lack of substance in american news. Just watching the news in other countries, reading their papers the difference is obvious. and it has nothing to do with a bias. The news in other countries has more substance, has more info, speaks to a more intelligent audience, asks much harder hitting questions and is not afraid to attack large established institutions. Our news especially the tv news is so microwaved. It should be no surprise that the average american is so ignorant on current events.
Thanks for posting the link! I am going to forward it to everyone I know. When you watch it in context it takes on an entirely different meaning.
How dare you show a Soundbyte!!!!
Heresies upon heresies... :)
Now what the hell is Obama ashamed of?
I'd like to see the two of them have a one on one conversation...
This should piss off any peace activist who has had to watch this country go to war time and time again, not just with iraq, but all the way back.
This is a country that continues to fail in its treaty obligations to the first nations that were here long before a single Euro set foot here.
Last year a tenured native american professor in Colorado was politically fired for a similar speech that suggested that the country was getting a piece of its own medicine.
It would appear to me that this country considers Karma something that our government and those who initiated the invasions both present and past can remove by censoring those who dare hold up a mirror or point to the obvious.
The right in this country has made it impossible for anyone to watch the english version of Al Jazeerah, even though it is now producing content.
For about 2 months after the invasion I watched and recorded the arabic version. No I couldn't understand what they were saying. However, what I did see was more than enough to realize just why this country is absolutely terrified of a news station that is watched by over 70 million people worldwide every day. The english version would open the door for anyone who would watch a sense of just who these people are, what they are like and what they are passionate about.
During one of those sessions, I watched as they showed a history of Europe's role in the middle east that started 500 years ago and went up to the present. This single show would very likely be the kind of show that millions of people might be more than slightly interested in.
Can you imagine what the impacts would be if that show had an American audience? The program was an hour long.
And what does it mean today that if that historic documentary of how Europe has invoked generations of strategic planning to shape a region politically, at first at the end of a bayonet, but later with the carrot stick strategy of offering certain tribes power and wealth beyond anything they had previously experienced. What is the history of how the British divided the once Ottoman Empire up?
Why would 15 well off Saudi's hijack planes here? Why did the U.S. censor 28 pages of the 9-11 report from the public that had to do with Faud and his family? Did it make news recently that Britain recently backed down over new threats made by the Saudi Family?
Why would policy wonks in this country want to keep all the nameless Middle Eastern chickens of the past from being brought before the people of this country? And I'm not talking about a western view of those chickens. We get that every day with Palestine. One barely known chicken is the fact that not a single news story that is published in this country about the Jewish - Paelstinian conflict is allowed unless it first goes through Jewish military censors..
We have a bunch of chickens looking to roost. and they must remain nameless, without a single way to identify themselves or why they have come a flying, or else there might be the sense that someone feels unjustly treated!
If there were more speeches like this on TV!!!
The sermon was delivered September 23, 2001
Rev. Wright: Every public service of worship I have heard about so far, in the wake of the American tragedy, has had, in its prayers and its preachments, sympathy and compassion for the people killed and for their families, and God's guidance upon the selected president and our war machine as they do what they do and what they gotta do: payback.
There's a move in Psalm 137 from paying tithes to thoughts of paying back. A move, if you will, from worship to war. A move, in other words, from the worship of the God of creation to war against those whom God created. And I want you to notice very carefully the next move, one of the reasons this psalm is rarely read in its entirety, because it is the move which spotlights the insanity of the cycle of violence and the cycle of hatred.
Look at the verse. Look at Verse 9. Look at Verse 9. "Happy shall they be who take your little ones and dash them against the rocks." The people of faith, by the rivers of Babylon — "how shall we sing the Lord's song? ... If I forget thee..." The people of faith have moved from the hatred of armed enemies — these soldiers who captured the king, those soldiers who slaughtered his son and put his eyes out, those soldiers who sacked the city, burnt the towns, burnt the temple, burnt the towers — they have moved from the hatred of armed enemies to the hatred of unarmed innocents: the babies. The babies. "Blessed are they who dash your baby's brains against a rock."
And that, my beloved, is a dangerous place to be. Yet that is where the people of faith are in 551 B.C. And that is where far too many people of faith are in 2001 AD. We have moved from the hatred of armed enemies to the hatred of unarmed innocents.
We want revenge. We want paybacks. and we don't care who gets hurt in the process.
Now I asked the Lord "What should our response be, in light of such an unthinkable act?" But before I share with you what the Lord showed me, I want to give you one of my "little faith footnotes". Visitors, I often give "faith footnotes" so that our members don't lose sight of the big picture. Let me give you a little "faith footnote." Turn to your neighbor and say "faith footnote."
The Congregation (as one): Faith footnote.
Rev. Wright: I heard Ambassador (Edward) Peck (former ambassador to Iraq) in an interview yesterday. Did anybody else see him or hear him? He was on Fox News. This was a white man, and he was upsetting the Fox News commentators to no end. He pointed out — did you see him, John? white man— he pointed out — an ambassador — that what Malcolm X said when he got silenced by Elijah Muhammad was in fact true: America's chickens are coming home to roost.
We took this country — by terror — away from the Sioux, the Apache, the Arawac, Comanche, the Arapahoe, the Navajo. Terrorism! We took Africans from their country to build our way of ease and kept them enslaved and living in fear. Terrorism! We bombed Grenada and killed innocent civilians, babies, non-military personnel! We bombed the black civilian community of Panama with Stealth bombers and killed unarmed teenagers and toddlers, pregnant mothers and hard-working fathers! We bombed Qaddafi's home and killed his child!
"Blessed are they who bash your children's head against a rock."
We bombed Iraq! We killed unarmed citizens trying to make a living! We bombed a plant in Sudan to pay back for the attack on our embassy, killed hundreds of hard-working people, mothers and fathers who left home to go to work that day not knowing that they'd never get back home! We bombed Hiroshima! We bombed Nagasaki! And we nuked far more than the thousands [killed] in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye.
Kids playing in the playground, mothers picking up children after school — civilians, not soldiers — people just trying to make it day by day. We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans and now we indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back in our own front yards!
Americans chickens... are coming home to roost!
Violence begets violence. Hatred begets hatred, and terrorism begets terrorism. A white ambassador said that, y'all, not a black militant. Not a reverend who preaches about racism. An ambassador whose eyes are wide open, and who's trying to get us to wake up and move away from this dangerous precipice upon which we are now poised. The ambassador said that the people that we are {possibly meant "have" instead?} wounded don't have the military capability we have, but they do have individuals who are willing to die and take thousands with them, and we need to come to grips with that.
Let me stop my "faith footnote" right there and ask you to think about that over the next few weeks, if God grants us that many days. Turn back to your neighbor and say "Footnote is over."
The Congregation [as one]: "Footnote is over."
Rev. Wright: Now, now, come on back to my question to the Lord. "What should our response be, right now, in light of such an unthinkable act?"
I asked the Lord that question Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. I was stuck in Newark, N. J. No flights were leaving LaGuardia, JFK or Newark airport. On the day that the FAA opened up the airports to bring into the cities of destination those flights that had been diverted, after the hijackings, a scare closed all three regional airports in New York, and I couldn't even get here for Mr. Radford's father's funeral. And I asked God "What should our response be?"
I saw pictures of the incredible. People jumping from the 110th floor. People jumping from the roof, because the stairwells and elevators above the 89th floor were gone, no more. Black people jumping to a certain death. People holding hands, jumping. People on fire, jumping, and I asked the Lord "What should our response be?"
I read what the people of faith felt in 551 B.C. But this is a different time, this is a different enemy, this is a different world, this is a different terror. This is a different reality. What should our response be?
And the Lord showed me three things, and let me share them with you quickly and I'm gonna leave you alone to think about the "faith footnote":
Number one: The Lord showed me that this is a time for self-examination. As I sat 900 miles away from my family and my community of faith, two months after my own father's death, God showed me that this was a time for me to examine my relationship with God, my own relationship with God, my personal relationship with God. I submit to you that it is the same for you.
Folk flocked to the church in New Jersey last week. You know, that "foxhole religion syndrome" kicked in, that emergency card, cord religion — you know that little box [that says] "Pull in case of emergency"? It kicked in full force. Folk who ain't thought about coming to church in years were in church last week. I heard that midweek prayer services all over this country, which are poorly attended 51 weeks out of the year, were jam-packed all over the nation the week of the hijackings, the 52nd week. Filled with folks.
But the Lord said "This ain't the time for you to be examining other folks' relationships, this is a time of self-examination. The Lord said to me "How is our relationship doing, Jeremiah? How often do you talk to Me personally? How often do you let Me talk to you privately ? How much time do you spend trying to get right with Me, or do you spend all your time trying to get other folks right?"
This is a time for me to examine my own relationship with God. Is it real or is it fake? Is it forever or is it for show? Is it something that you do for the sake of the public or is it something that you do for sake of eternity? This is a time for me to examine my own and a time for you to examine your own relationship with God.
Self-examination.
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Why shun Reverend Wright when he is right in his thinking... Sure he got mad, he has a right too!
And I am a white male, U.S. veteran. If white people can't see Thur the right wing CFR controlled media then they have been watching to much TV. My suggestion, Turn your TV's off.
His sermon is based in Psalm 137 v. 9. Read that in context.
1 By the rivers of Babylon we sat and wept when we remembered Zion.
2 There on the poplars we hung our harps,
3 for there our captors asked us for songs, our tormentors demanded songs of joy; they said, "Sing us one of the songs of Zion!"
4 How can we sing the songs of the LORD while in a foreign land?
5 If I forget you, O Jerusalem, may my right hand forget its skill .
6 May my tongue cling to the roof of my mouth if I do not remember you, if I do not consider Jerusalem my highest joy.
7 Remember, O LORD, what the Edomites did on the day Jerusalem fell. "Tear it down," they cried, "tear it down to its foundations!"
8 O Daughter of Babylon, doomed to destruction, happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us-
9 he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.
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